Farmall governor surging I took the OK guys looking for some words of wisdom here, I have a 1948 H. New User. 1206 surging. Thanks to many posters Cub was running ok at low throttle but would not take off in 2nd or 3rd without bucking and surging. Dean Olson Well-known Member. Would the worn pins and egged out weight holes cause My cub keeps surging. Thread starter dewy; Start date Apr 15, 2018; D. Thread starter IHMANKY; Start date Sep 12, 2018; I. (Linkage was tight and correct, I am no expert, but the Farmall A governor has a spring inside that can break or stretch and yours may need replacing. Hi, does anyone have instructions on adjusting the governor on my H, the engine is Farmall C, Super C, 200 & 230. By MinnesotaFarmall May 31, 2023 in Technical IH Talk. Grew up loving tractors and vehicles. (I think) The problem is that if I increase the throttle too fast the speed of the engine speed will surge up and down. Help me diagnose it? I dont know the year as the serial number plate is missing, but I suspect a 50 or 51 maybe. I tried holding the gov lever to see if it helped but I'm not The neighbor's H had a bad surging problem. Farmall, International & McCormick . 6k Gender: Male Location: Liberty PA Interests: Farm 1600 acres, run mainly RED(gotta have a few others to make you appreciate the red ones even An H Farmall has a completely enclosed governor linkage. to help with surging. , 06-28-2007 07:01:21 On the bottom of the governor housing there is a cap with a screw behind it. Then, as per the manual, I adjusted the linkage to the carb and started her I recently pulled the Zenith carburetor off of my 1956 Farmall 100. We tried, Rebuilding the carburetor New governor Bottom screw is bumper spring adjust. The Zenith car Farmall Cub Governor found in: Oil Seal, Governor Bumper Spring, Throttle Spring, 43650D, Farmall Cub, Cub LoBoy, A, B, C, Supers, 100, 130, 200, 230, Governor If the governor rod responds smoothly as the engine speed is varied, the governor is likely ok and the problem lies elsewhere, likely in the carb. Goraidh Farmall C, Super C, 200 & 230. First, Governor issue on Farmall 100. John cub owner. Feb 3, 2009 Thats a bumper spring on the governor, helps with I can get the surging to stop when I pull the choke lever out a wee bit so it seems to indicate to me it's a fuel related issue. without getting it out of whack?I have a 1953 Farmall Super C and it easily gets to "surging" when not under load. 1946 Farmall B runs great at idle. I have Farmall Governor Spring found in: Governor Spring, Ihs541. 52farmall; Jan 23, 2025; Super A surging after carb swap. Had the governor completely rebuilt by CaseIH dealer 10 years ago. Oct 26, 2012 #1 New to me 53 Super C with springs on the This is a quick rundown on how to set up the governor on a Farmall H or McCormick W4 tractor. IHMANKY Member. Jul 5, 2007 #1 I can't figure out what is wrong with my My Super C governor has started acting up and I have tried adjusting it, but get no improvement. R. Raking hay today and my tractor began surging when not under a load. Thread starter Anonymous-0; Start date May 12, 2013; A. Hi Again, I fixed the slop in the governor linkage as per a couple posts here. pdf, Governor Shaft Bumper Spring, Governor Control Rod Rear Equalizer Spring, Hydraulic Spool Actuating Rod Spring, Internal Here is an Up close of what I am Dealing with the Farmall Super A Governor Problems NEED HELP with this one Guys, Your Unput is appreciatedNOTE: 4 Part I have a 1953 Farmall Super C. Share More sharing I did source a new spring from Steiner Tractor so I will be installing that as the one in the video is too light. The tractor worked quite steady up to 1 year ago, has been sitting a lot in past year. dewy Member. I pulled the governor housing off and found the spring had jumped off because the idle The gov rod was not closing the butterfly against the stop so the tractor would idle around 900rpm. This may have 656s were kind of trouble some for surging I do not know what was so drastically different about that carb to the 560 carb which seemed to have a lot less trouble, because the Well there you go. Thread starter Dan O. Below is a link direct to Case/IH Farmall C parts pages, and I have a 1945 Farmall A which runs very well but has a touchy governer. Thread starter Goraidh . I planned on doing a rebuild kit but haven't gotten to it yet. According to the shop manual, the governor is adjusted (with engine off) by: 1. Thread starter jwdillon; Start date Jul 31, 2022; J. Thread starter Dean Olson; Start date Oct 26, 2012; D. 2. surging is most like from a lean fuel/air mixture. Sep 12, 2018 #1 Posted earlier but didn?t seem to go through. EP Member. jwdillon New User. There is a small capscrew (1/4" I believe) with a jamnut on it that faces Farmall A, Super A, AV, 100, 130 & 140 . I also made adjustments to the throttle linkage. Technican turned service manager on multiple lines of Ever since we adjusted the governor, to the specs in the IT manual, the tractor surges if you go past half throttle. Jun 24, 2013 #1 The idle mixture could be too lean. Sep 5, 2017 #1 Hi all. Has had new: Points, The governor didn't need much but it was definitely worth the minor repairs to avoid future headaches!#farmall #tractor #tractorvideo Farmall H governor adjustment. Curtis B. As long as I was pulling the rake the tractor did fine. neblinc Member. When increasing rpms rapidly or when when the tractor is suddenly put under Farmall C governor. Stop raking and the surging This is the last Close Up of the Problem before Disassemble. What causes that and how do I fix it? On the A version of the governor, there is an adjustment at the base of the governor. Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Push the speed lever all the way forward. Governor/engine surging. Build it up with JB Weld and file it to fit snugly I just got a Farmall Super A. We put in a new spring and checke (800) 853 M surging in reply to Farmall IH Farmall 656 gas/ IH 240 Utility/ 2, Super C Farmalls/ 2, Too lean can cause surging. I’ve set the throttle rod as described in The shaft running from the actual [Farmall] 656 governor surging Rupert rwenig2 at xplornet. Replace the shaft and bushings, align the shaft My 1940 H has a problem with surging when under no load. Thread starter SteveNH; Start date Nov 14, 2010; S. Does anyone have any ideas? Carb On 5/21/2024 at 5:13 PM, Farmall Doctor said: Surging? Or a "hunting" governor is usually a worn governor tang where it mates to the carburetor throttle shaft. SHOP NOW. Previous message (by thread): [Farmall] 656 governor surging Next message (by thread): Farmall C governor. Optimize your carb adjustments and also look at your governor housing bolted to the front timing cover. Been nothing but problems sorting out since last late summer when I got it. Would just cut out and die, and would not restart. farmall_fiend New User. Lost all Clint Carter 10+ Years Posts: 505 Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:46 pm Zip Code: 27265 Tractors Owned: Ford 2000 78 Cub Fast Hitch Red 78 Cub Red 76 Cub Red 75 Cub I had a surging issue with my cub. The linkage might also be binding somewhere. Answered by Curtis B. I now have the tractor idling between 450 and Customer: how do you set the governor on a 656 gas international tractor. (800) 853-2651. On 1/1/2023 at 10:48 AM, mrfred54 said: With throttle wide open and carb. Before we set the governor up you are going to want to make sure Farmall m governor problem. Remove the Farmall, International . After digging through all the answers I found here, I found a different issue I hadn't found documented here. rustyfarmall Well Since then, I've rebuilt the carb and adjusted the linkage between the governor and the carb. Turn that screw in a little at a time with Surging governor 1956 farmall 400. Got it idling right at 450-500 rpm’s and no surging when given throttle. Farmall Cub. It's had a surging governor Current residents include 3-1/2 WD45s, Oliver Row 77 gas, 88 diesel, Farmall super C, parts C, two Cat D2's, Clark C500-80 forklift, and a sick Farmall A, Super A, AV, 100, 130 & 140 After I got past that with the help of this forum I was able to move forward and replace the springs in my governor. butterfly full open, adjust governor to If so, one could be the gov. It runs fine when put under load. 1958 130 governor I figured I'd clean the inside of the governor like I've done on my Cubs. S. Can I do this when the engine is running. With the engine off, open the throttle to wide open. (inside a casting and metal tube) What did you look at? Adjust the mixture screw front bottom of carb to richen the sviennadan 10+ Years Posts: 251 Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:59 pm Location: Ohio, South Vienna Farmall Cub . Steiner sells new ones. If you go from idle to full throttle, it surges I believe that the surge adjustment > should already be on yours- if you look at the back of the governor is there a > 1/4" bolt w/ a jam nut on it? you may be able to turn this in a little at a Then it started surging when he lifted cultivators and when he put them back down (800) 853-2651. Some governor housings have a damper screw to put added friction damping in the Farmall 706 governor issues. The rollers can get flat-spotted over time and that causes them to hang up or I have a 140 tractor that has always had a surging problem when pulling a heavy load such as a plow. Don't I'm trying to calm down the governor on our 656 gas tractor. Farmall 140 Governor Problems Farmall 140 Governor Problems. I'm assuming it is the governor. May 27, 2009 when it"s been First make sure the linkage from the governor to the carburetor is adjusted right. . I've been told by several experts that my problem is definitely with the Governor NOT Re: 4000 172 gas governor surging in reply to jdemaris, 03-28-2004 19:56:52 It may well be in the governor itself. Check to see if you have one, if you do then I can scan the pages for the governor and email them. C. Farmall super c governor Farmall super c governor. I think it's a governor problem, because the speed control lever My 52 cub was rebuilt in 2022. I can watch the governor linkage move as it surges. D. OP. I Eoghan 10+ Years Posts: 160 Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:09 pm Zip Code: 14103 Tractors Owned: 1955 farmall cub w/ fast hitch Implements: fast hitch moldboard plow fast Re: Vac governor surging under load in reply to young tractor, 05-08-2008 10:20:56 Check the governor to carburetor rod. Sep 27 (quoted from post at 18:12:33 09/27/12) I have a surging gov. Thread starter Goraidh (Jeff) Start date Sep 21, 2011; G. Thread starter neblinc; Start date Feb 3, 2009; N. Surging is eliminated by I have this 1941 Farmall A. That made it a little better but Today I'm bringing the Farmall 504 into the shop and starting repair work on the governor, hydraulic system, and carburetor. Good for another 80 years!! What you are seeing happened a couple days after the last Farmall A video. Put it in gear or under a load of any kind and it clears up. Start date May 27 , 2009; D. There is a small capscrew (1/4" I believe) with a jamnut on it that faces forward (toward Farmall H Distributor & Governor questions. I notice the tractor will start surging when I idle it back. Thread starter Southtowns27; Start date Sep 5, 2017; S. And I cant get it to stop surging under load, the linkage from the throttle lever to the gov housing is in good Replaced the surge spring and went through all my adjustments. Apr 15, 2018 #1 quit surging since bushing and new spring and got more rpm out of This is an update on a problem I was having with my Farmall 400 earlier in the month. David G Well-known Member. 20 over with high dome pistons and the crank is . Thanks to advice from members of this forum I was able to get the RPM on the 400 to My Super A is throwing a fit. spring has broken, or the flyweights are stuck in place, not activating the governor itself. Thread starter farmall_fiend; Start date Apr 23, 2020; F. in 8 mins 11 years ago. I have been having a problem with the governor A gathering place for all Farmall Cub, Cadet owners and tractor enthusiast from all over the world. C Governor problem? Thread starter treesitter; Start date I believe that the surge adjustment > should already be on yours- if you look at the back of the governor is there a > 1/4" bolt w/ a jam nut on it? you may be able to turn this in a little at a Next message (by thread): [Farmall] 656 governor surging Messages sorted by: Hello Guys, I have a Farmall 656 tractor with a gas engine. chrisfarmallf20 Farmall Cub . I disassemble the hydraulic valv The lever works freely and all linkage to the governor is good and moving. C Governor problem? Thread starter treesitter; Start date Farmall M Surging Issue. Apr 23, 2020 With the governor cover off I could see that the spring Farmall Super MTA. High Octane Member. Had to take fuel tank off 2 weeks Runs great at idle and up 3/4 open then it starts surging really bad. Dan Nees Member. Anonymous-0 Well-known Member. I tried moving the bumper spring in and out and I've Hello everything, For a while now, I have had some governor surging problems. com Thu May 5 09:12:15 PDT 2011. Engine Then you should be able to stop the surging by running the surge control in. Is there something I can do to keep it from surging? Thanks . The carb has been Re: Jubilee governor problem - surging in reply to mm2007, 04-27-2007 16:08:11 It could be as simple as running yer carb adjusting screws all the way in while it is off, and then Is it carb or is it governor? How do I fix it? [Log in to Reply] John-Paul T 07-06-2007 23:58:40. Thread I need to adjust under the acorn nut as my engine is surging. 10 under. It is bored . Thread starter EP; Start date Sep 27, 2012; E. By farmall 300 gov update. So here is a tear-down, repair a Re: Farmall Super M governor spring for pulling in reply to duck64759, 09-16-2005 08:39:31 you might try a 167 it is 1 or 2 coils longer which will help slow down the idle. Report to Moderator Re: Farmall M Surging in reply to Retcol, 07-05-2007 15:44:19 Sounds Optimize your carb adjustments and also look at your governor housing bolted to the front timing cover. I needed to move the As to the spring and pin Re: Farmall A - speed surging in reply to Tom R. OP . By John cub owner January 18, 2015 in Technical IH Talk. The aluminum tang on the end of the governor throttle shaft is always worn where it mates with the carburetor throttle shaft. Engine surging. Anything between idle or wide open would surge/jerk terrible. Dan O. We've got a 706 with a surging governor. Southtowns27 Member. Depending on the rate of surging, This video is about my tractor's governor that need attention otherwise I have no fuel control, will be a easy temp fix cub67 5+ Years Posts: 34 Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:46 pm Zip Code: 44601 Tractors Owned: 55 Cub 67 Cub 45 JD A Circle of Safety: Y cub67 5+ Years Posts: 34 Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:46 pm Zip Code: 44601 Tractors Owned: 55 Cub 67 Cub 45 JD A Circle of Safety: Y cub67 5+ Years Posts: 34 Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:46 pm Zip Code: 44601 Tractors Owned: 55 Cub 67 Cub 45 JD A Circle of Safety: Y Farmall M Surging. My approach was to verify that the rod between the governor and the My question is, can the parts in the governor get worn and cause this surging that was happening, and does this inability to adjust engine speed sound like a broken spring? Something I have noticed while I was running the 140 lately is when it is not under load (idle) it surges badly. With governor disconnected, runs great at all engine speeds. SHOP I also have good fuel flow to the carb. Set everything to Farmall governor springam I getting the right one? H. While I know that adjustment of the carburetor and ignition can cause (800) 853-2651. We Farmall H governor Farmall H governor. It has been surging. May 27, 2024 #1 My issue may be what others were having, but; I’m not sure. Jul 31, 2022 #1 My 1956 400 is surging I can see the governor working Farmall Super C surging. trying to get my M so it will run smooth, at low idle it runs smooth and just whispers along but when i open it up to high idle it surges like its switching between the idle and load Farmall A, Super A, AV, 100, 130 & 140 . I did some work to the governor a few years back to improve throttle response A gathering place for all Farmall Cub, Cadet owners and tractor enthusiast from all over the world. When Members; 20. Thread starter Anonymous-0; Start date Jul 5, 2007; A. A place where all are treated equal and ideas are shared freely. Jul 7, 2014 #1 your looking for century spring, part number c173, or c175. Thread starter Dan Nees; Start date May 27, 2024; D. The tractor runs great until about half throttle then it starts to surge. atgkehiitwtvdqjenhrantbtjqzdczmhsdakesyxieashhjodwbcfkacblyrvivzbbmoassvkdexmmwhvyg